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		<title>By: Sheilagh Dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheilagh Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 01:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all -- was I the only abysmal sewer in our family?!? I remember having to ask Joanne Dale for advice on sewing an apron in Mrs. Giardino&#039;s home ec class in Grade 9 and feeling very embarrassed about needing help.  And Catherine, I guess I can’t claim some causal relationship between the math gene (which I also lack) and the sewing gene.  However, Mom’s dual gifts for math and sewing clearly came through in the next generation.  Claire is a self-taught, meticulous sewer who makes her own patterns, designs dresses, has been featured in two fashion shows and who asked for a “Judy” mannequin as a graduation present. This combination of creativity and hands-on pragmatism may be another Dunn trait.  In the meantime, I’ve decided that knitting (from uncomplicated patterns) is my lowly contribution to the “domestic arts.”  

Sheilagh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all &#8212; was I the only abysmal sewer in our family?!? I remember having to ask Joanne Dale for advice on sewing an apron in Mrs. Giardino&#8217;s home ec class in Grade 9 and feeling very embarrassed about needing help.  And Catherine, I guess I can’t claim some causal relationship between the math gene (which I also lack) and the sewing gene.  However, Mom’s dual gifts for math and sewing clearly came through in the next generation.  Claire is a self-taught, meticulous sewer who makes her own patterns, designs dresses, has been featured in two fashion shows and who asked for a “Judy” mannequin as a graduation present. This combination of creativity and hands-on pragmatism may be another Dunn trait.  In the meantime, I’ve decided that knitting (from uncomplicated patterns) is my lowly contribution to the “domestic arts.”  </p>
<p>Sheilagh</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Angela,
Michael encouraged me to post a comment and since my online teaching site is down, I see an opportunity! 
As the fourth of the 12, I like the symmetry of being the second girl after two brothers and one sistes.  Math never came to me as a genetic gift the way it did to Maureen through Mom.  I inherited Dad&#039;s gift with money - if you have it, give it away...not always to the best of recipients mind you and Mom can tell you of things when Dad&#039;s generosity put the family in jeopardy of eating that week!  She tells me that she didn&#039;t really become rigid about financial matters until she and Dad moved to Almonte and bought a house.  Up until then, they had been renting a three bedroom house in Copper Cliff for $35.00 monthly.  Acquiring a mortgage and more children meant a more serious approach to handling money...and there are few financial managers today who could beat her skills at that.
  Moving on.....I received a sewing machine as well as a gaduation gift from university.  It was secondhand and I believe it cost $35.00.  It has since been replaced but was usually often when we were first married for curtains, maternity clothes(interesting combination) and as I remember....a &quot;muu-muu&quot; for my mother-in-law as a gift one Christmas.  I also remember making a hobbit-style housecoat for my husband then too.  Later, I made more girly clothes for my daughter with the ruffles and frills that I couldn&#039;t put on my son&#039;s clothes.  In particular, I remember make a lovely summer jumpsuit for Sarah (age 5) with a white background and a pattern of vivid oranges, greens, pinks and yellows.  I sewed on  buttons of different colours and loved seeing it on her.  I still have that item somewhere.  I have a sewing room of my own now and although I know where everything is, it&#039;s still not as organized as I wish it to be.  A few days ago, Abbey, my 5 year old granddaughter and I were in there.  I had cached a few Barbies and remmant ends in there for emergency purposes and Abbey was making doll clothes for them.  Instead of using a needle, she would cut a piece of fabric, take a straight pin and jab it straight into the midsection of Barbie&#039;s six pack.  When Abbey was finished, Barbie resembled a voodoo doll.
  Back to Mom for a minute...she loves hearing people tell stories and I wonder if it&#039;s because Dad was a storyteller and she became an avid listener.  At Easter dinner, she asked me to share the story of how Mary Gallagher has been kicking St. Anthony&#039;s butt when it comes to finding lost items.  St.Anthony was a number #1 favourite with both our grandmothers and has always been a family pick.  Our youngest brother is named Peter Anthony but Mary Gallagher is fast becoming the &quot;go to&quot; girl in heaven.  Shall I share next time - anyone interested?
Catherine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Angela,<br />
Michael encouraged me to post a comment and since my online teaching site is down, I see an opportunity!<br />
As the fourth of the 12, I like the symmetry of being the second girl after two brothers and one sistes.  Math never came to me as a genetic gift the way it did to Maureen through Mom.  I inherited Dad&#8217;s gift with money &#8211; if you have it, give it away&#8230;not always to the best of recipients mind you and Mom can tell you of things when Dad&#8217;s generosity put the family in jeopardy of eating that week!  She tells me that she didn&#8217;t really become rigid about financial matters until she and Dad moved to Almonte and bought a house.  Up until then, they had been renting a three bedroom house in Copper Cliff for $35.00 monthly.  Acquiring a mortgage and more children meant a more serious approach to handling money&#8230;and there are few financial managers today who could beat her skills at that.<br />
  Moving on&#8230;..I received a sewing machine as well as a gaduation gift from university.  It was secondhand and I believe it cost $35.00.  It has since been replaced but was usually often when we were first married for curtains, maternity clothes(interesting combination) and as I remember&#8230;.a &#8220;muu-muu&#8221; for my mother-in-law as a gift one Christmas.  I also remember making a hobbit-style housecoat for my husband then too.  Later, I made more girly clothes for my daughter with the ruffles and frills that I couldn&#8217;t put on my son&#8217;s clothes.  In particular, I remember make a lovely summer jumpsuit for Sarah (age 5) with a white background and a pattern of vivid oranges, greens, pinks and yellows.  I sewed on  buttons of different colours and loved seeing it on her.  I still have that item somewhere.  I have a sewing room of my own now and although I know where everything is, it&#8217;s still not as organized as I wish it to be.  A few days ago, Abbey, my 5 year old granddaughter and I were in there.  I had cached a few Barbies and remmant ends in there for emergency purposes and Abbey was making doll clothes for them.  Instead of using a needle, she would cut a piece of fabric, take a straight pin and jab it straight into the midsection of Barbie&#8217;s six pack.  When Abbey was finished, Barbie resembled a voodoo doll.<br />
  Back to Mom for a minute&#8230;she loves hearing people tell stories and I wonder if it&#8217;s because Dad was a storyteller and she became an avid listener.  At Easter dinner, she asked me to share the story of how Mary Gallagher has been kicking St. Anthony&#8217;s butt when it comes to finding lost items.  St.Anthony was a number #1 favourite with both our grandmothers and has always been a family pick.  Our youngest brother is named Peter Anthony but Mary Gallagher is fast becoming the &#8220;go to&#8221; girl in heaven.  Shall I share next time &#8211; anyone interested?<br />
Catherine</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ange,
You asked for opinions from your siblings. So, here is my input.

You make the observation &quot;Mom ran the household like a military camp.&quot; I have given that 
statement a lot of thought and would like to postulate that we were somewhat akin to a small regiment in an army: Dad was Colonel-in-Chief, Mom was his Adjutant or Regimental 
Sergeant Major and we were the foot soldiers. She was a full time mother and never worked 
out of the house until the youngest was off to school.


In this situation, we had understandings as to what was expected of us in terms of doing 
work such as washing dishes (no mechanical dishwashers in those days), hanging up clothes 
and diapers to dry, putting the baby-of-the-day on the potty and emptying the leavings, 
mowing the lawn and raking it in the fall as well as other numerous tasks which were well 
outlined in constant lists drawn up by Mother. We had a quarter of a pie shaped table where 
everyone had his or her assigned place so there was no fighting over placement. Food was 
doled out by Mother on dishes in sequential seniority order and were then brought to the 
table in the same order. This was done three times daily as we all came home for lunch 
from school. The over arching idea here is that of regimen where each of us knew what was 
expected of us and when someone whined or complained, their complaints were given short 
shrift as we all had to carry the weight. Nor was there any room for prima donnas. Anyone 
who aspired to that occupation was swiftly disabused of the notion. We all suffered 
collectively each night before going to bed when it was time to say the &quot;beads&quot; (aka the 
Catholic rosary) on our knees. Each of us got our turn at saying a decade and there was 
an unspoken competition as to who could get through the fastest without hearing a growl 
from Dad to &quot;Slow down!&quot; The beads were followed by other ad hoc prayers which began with 
the recitation &quot;God bless Michael, Patrick, Margaret, Cathy, Kevin, Maureen, ...whats&#039; 
the new kid&#039;s name? Ah...yes..Sheilagh&quot; then onto more prayers. Within about 18 months, 
that particular prayer had evolved into &quot;&quot;God bless Michael, Patrick, Margaret, Cathy, 
Kevin, Maureen, Sheilagh ...whats&#039; the new kid&#039;s name? Ah...yes..Mary Ann&quot;. And so it 
went.

Dad spent a number of years in the army during WWII and afterwards, some years in the 
militia. With his years in a family of 13 children and his military bent, discipline was 
high on the list of his priorities both with his family and his students. From 1948 to 
1957, he was a high school teacher and I&#039;ve spoken to a number of his students who 
unanimously avowed that, although very strict, was the best teacher they&#039;d ever had. 
Woe betide the young one who ventured to swivel their head in church to look around as a 
respite from boredom. In short order, a long arm would reach over, a large palm with 
spread fingers would clamp down on the offending head and smartly, the child&#039;s eyes were 
facing the altar once again. Parishioners sitting behind always enjoyed these scenes. As 
Angela has written, Dad was never one to solicit opinions from us. Even up until he died, 
I never ventured into topics on which he and I would be bound to disagree as I knew full 
well that dismissal of any of my opinions would be certain. He had firm ideas but they 
were grounded in cement.

But all of this discipline meted out by both parents was tempered with love. Neither 
parent could actually show overt affection to a specific child as this can&#039;t happen in an 
&quot;army&quot;. Everyone had to be treated equally. The older children were expected to help with 
the raising of the younger ones. For me, as the oldest, I unknowingly acted as a 
surrogate father sometimes in small ways which stood me in good stead in later life when 
I married a widow with three children.

The world has moved on from those days and I dare say that we&#039;ll be hard pressed to ever 
again find a &quot;functional family&quot; with 12 children. It was an experience I am very proud 
to have been a part of.

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ange,<br />
You asked for opinions from your siblings. So, here is my input.</p>
<p>You make the observation &#8220;Mom ran the household like a military camp.&#8221; I have given that<br />
statement a lot of thought and would like to postulate that we were somewhat akin to a small regiment in an army: Dad was Colonel-in-Chief, Mom was his Adjutant or Regimental<br />
Sergeant Major and we were the foot soldiers. She was a full time mother and never worked<br />
out of the house until the youngest was off to school.</p>
<p>In this situation, we had understandings as to what was expected of us in terms of doing<br />
work such as washing dishes (no mechanical dishwashers in those days), hanging up clothes<br />
and diapers to dry, putting the baby-of-the-day on the potty and emptying the leavings,<br />
mowing the lawn and raking it in the fall as well as other numerous tasks which were well<br />
outlined in constant lists drawn up by Mother. We had a quarter of a pie shaped table where<br />
everyone had his or her assigned place so there was no fighting over placement. Food was<br />
doled out by Mother on dishes in sequential seniority order and were then brought to the<br />
table in the same order. This was done three times daily as we all came home for lunch<br />
from school. The over arching idea here is that of regimen where each of us knew what was<br />
expected of us and when someone whined or complained, their complaints were given short<br />
shrift as we all had to carry the weight. Nor was there any room for prima donnas. Anyone<br />
who aspired to that occupation was swiftly disabused of the notion. We all suffered<br />
collectively each night before going to bed when it was time to say the &#8220;beads&#8221; (aka the<br />
Catholic rosary) on our knees. Each of us got our turn at saying a decade and there was<br />
an unspoken competition as to who could get through the fastest without hearing a growl<br />
from Dad to &#8220;Slow down!&#8221; The beads were followed by other ad hoc prayers which began with<br />
the recitation &#8220;God bless Michael, Patrick, Margaret, Cathy, Kevin, Maureen, &#8230;whats&#8217;<br />
the new kid&#8217;s name? Ah&#8230;yes..Sheilagh&#8221; then onto more prayers. Within about 18 months,<br />
that particular prayer had evolved into &#8220;&#8221;God bless Michael, Patrick, Margaret, Cathy,<br />
Kevin, Maureen, Sheilagh &#8230;whats&#8217; the new kid&#8217;s name? Ah&#8230;yes..Mary Ann&#8221;. And so it<br />
went.</p>
<p>Dad spent a number of years in the army during WWII and afterwards, some years in the<br />
militia. With his years in a family of 13 children and his military bent, discipline was<br />
high on the list of his priorities both with his family and his students. From 1948 to<br />
1957, he was a high school teacher and I&#8217;ve spoken to a number of his students who<br />
unanimously avowed that, although very strict, was the best teacher they&#8217;d ever had.<br />
Woe betide the young one who ventured to swivel their head in church to look around as a<br />
respite from boredom. In short order, a long arm would reach over, a large palm with<br />
spread fingers would clamp down on the offending head and smartly, the child&#8217;s eyes were<br />
facing the altar once again. Parishioners sitting behind always enjoyed these scenes. As<br />
Angela has written, Dad was never one to solicit opinions from us. Even up until he died,<br />
I never ventured into topics on which he and I would be bound to disagree as I knew full<br />
well that dismissal of any of my opinions would be certain. He had firm ideas but they<br />
were grounded in cement.</p>
<p>But all of this discipline meted out by both parents was tempered with love. Neither<br />
parent could actually show overt affection to a specific child as this can&#8217;t happen in an<br />
&#8220;army&#8221;. Everyone had to be treated equally. The older children were expected to help with<br />
the raising of the younger ones. For me, as the oldest, I unknowingly acted as a<br />
surrogate father sometimes in small ways which stood me in good stead in later life when<br />
I married a widow with three children.</p>
<p>The world has moved on from those days and I dare say that we&#8217;ll be hard pressed to ever<br />
again find a &#8220;functional family&#8221; with 12 children. It was an experience I am very proud<br />
to have been a part of.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve uploaded two pictures to 

http://cid-ab00adfeae4d951a.skydrive.live.com/home.aspx

There are two pictures: one of the whole family with names taken after church service celebrating Mom and Dad&#039;s 60th wedding anniversary. The other was taken the same day just below their apartment.

These should help your readers to put faces to names.

Cheers - Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve uploaded two pictures to </p>
<p><a href="http://cid-ab00adfeae4d951a.skydrive.live.com/home.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://cid-ab00adfeae4d951a.skydrive.live.com/home.aspx</a></p>
<p>There are two pictures: one of the whole family with names taken after church service celebrating Mom and Dad&#8217;s 60th wedding anniversary. The other was taken the same day just below their apartment.</p>
<p>These should help your readers to put faces to names.</p>
<p>Cheers &#8211; Michael</p>
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